19th April 2010

“On the point about the right to manifest religion; under Article 9 of the European Convention on Human Rights that is a qualified right. You don't have the right to manifest your religion if the way in which you want to manifest your religion interferes to a disproportionate extent with someone else's right, including someone else's right to be treated without discrimination. The fact that your religion gives you an incentive to discriminate against other people doesn't give you a lawful excuse for doing that.”

Dinah Rose QC

28 Responses to “19th April 2010”

  1. j sutton Says:

    Dinah Rose is an eminent QC so she should know. Perhaps she should tell all her mates.

  2. Hypatia Says:

    The cases raised in the UK recently were always likely to fail – but then failure can be very useful for a pressure group keen to generate the impression that it’s being persecuted (however inaccurate and unjustified that perception may be).

  3. steve Says:

    “The fact that your religion gives you an incentive to discriminate” is reason to abandon that religion for rational thought.

  4. Holysmokes Says:

    Is there any religion that does not discriminate?

  5. steve Says:

    Holysmokes – maybe Buddhism, but I am not sure if you would call that a religion or a philosophy.

    Hypatia – good observation, thanks.

  6. PEB Says:

    So basically everytime a religious spokesperson (ie. the pope) offer up their nasty little opinion on gay people they are breaking international law on human rights.

  7. John Says:

    Why is the catholic church exempt and above the RICO Act in the US?

  8. steve Says:

    John: It is not exempt. Just because it has not been prosecuted under RICO – so far – there is nothing to say that it will not eventually be prosecuted under this law.

    Why not is another question, though.

  9. tech Says:

    Most all of you discriminate here on this site.You think thats OK?As for people who prefer alternate life styles its their business,but please leave the children out of it.All our children deserve a wholesome life style,with high morals.

  10. PEB Says:

    I take it by “alternate life styles” you mean gay? GAY, GAY, GAY, GAY, GAY.
    Also, where did the children reference come from? Your thought process went religion, catholics, homosexuals and then children? Interesting.

  11. Alavi Hossain Says:

    we discriminate, tech? no, we criticize the irrational and immoral. when have you ever heard of murder or genocide in the name of atheism? that has happened time and time again in the name of religion and in the name of a higher power. it’s logically impossible to do either bad or good in the name of atheism. if you look at history just from the very surface of it, religion breeds discrimination and hatred. sure, some good has been done due to religion, but all the destruction caused by it surpasses the good by miles. and you religious zealots should be the ones leaving the children out of it. how is it not abuse to threaten a 4 year old with the fires of hell? is it that tough to teach someone to be good with logical reasoning? religion should be treated like your genitals: dont show it off in public and dont shove it down your children’s throats.

  12. steve Says:

    Tech, on this issue I have to agree with PEB. Your remarks seem remarkably homophobic, and I thought that type of bigotry was the Troll’s domain. Today’s AQOTD is addressing the limitations of bigotry by religion.

    So, Tech, I call on you to defend your statements. What is going on with the code language and kids? Do you believe that same sex parents can be as good of parents as hetero parents?

  13. Atheist MC Says:

    This quote gets to the heart of why I am an active atheist (as opposed to just some old geyser who doesn’t believe in God). The point is not to allow superstitious twaddle to become the default position either in government, law or society at large.

  14. Holysmokes Says:

    religion should be treated like your genitals: dont show it off in public and dont shove it down your children’s throats.

    Alavi: Now THAT is a great one liner! Do you mind if I hit my numerous fundy relatives with that one?

  15. solomon Says:


    Before you hit your numerous fundy relatives with that one, hear this first.

    Atheists=GAY=retards biological norms=does not help in reproduction.==Liars

    Nobody need these groups of people.They are like rubbish, a nuisance to society.Their only agenda is to dump religion.Theres no truth in what they say as reflected in their way of life(fu***n mens ass).

    Better ponder to some of my doctrines….

    God is the greatest creator.Imagine a fly, yes…the housefly, existed millions of years ago, with the finest technology to fly.Can take off and land in an instant.Can manouver swiftly in narrow spaces.Whose the brains behind that technology?Your fu**in “by chance” stuffs?Forget about evolution.Who creates the 1st design of the fly.Your fu**in “by chance” stuffs again?

  16. solomon Says:

    solomon’s doctrines…..

    Evidence or proofs of Gods existence is actually not a need at all.Its a sure thing.If you have doubts, ask this yourself.
    Do you need proofs or evidence that Death will come to you?
    Is death a sure thing too?

    Answer this…you Atheists fools…

  17. John Says:

    solomon, my hope is that if you have children or relative that are gay, that you have not killed them for your foolish god myths.

  18. solomon Says:

    Since the Atheists could’nt in any way refute my doctrines….I think its about time they have to begin to throw all their false beliefs down the drain & abide to the true religion…Islam.

  19. John Says:

    Are you proclaiming yourself a god?

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  21. Alavi Hossain Says:

    “Evidence or proofs of Gods existence is actually not a need at all”. what? then why believe in anything? yes we all know we’re going to die, that doesnt help your cause any solomon. i think you may just go down as one of the biggest retards in this forum. jesus christ screwing a monkey on a cross, read some books.

    oh, and i agree with this quote.

  22. solomon Says:

    You don’t apply reasoning you lousy Alavi…Go burn yourself in Hell!Thats a just place for you ass fu**er.

  23. solomon Says:

    The fact that you all know you’re goin to die is the same fact that God exists.

  24. solomon Says:

    Dear John,

    Everybody’s on their own.They have to take responsibility for their actions.Is God foolish or myths after ponding thru my doctrines?
    Don’t purposely accuse me of claiming I’am God.

  25. John Says:

    Is you god death?

  26. Alavi Hossain Says:

    hahahahahaha, ur so funny solomon.

  27. solomon Says:

    Your laugh is not real or sincere Alavi.Its the laugh of someone in doubt.

  28. steve Says:

    #1, #2. Boring.