1st May 2010
“It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.”
Albert Einstein1879 – 1955
May 1st, 2010 at 1:14
And the same ridiculous lie is perpetuated to this very day, dishonoring one of the great minds of the 20th century.
DFTT!
BAT
May 1st, 2010 at 1:18
thats my boy!
DFTT
May 1st, 2010 at 1:54
Blessed the man who walks not in the counsel of the ungodly, withThat said I bid Goodbye to all you non believers.I have better things to do with my time.However I will be praying for your souls.I have a much better life that I practice.I have a church with a lot of good people to fellowship with.There respect is the oder of the day , I have never found it here.So continue on with your rubbish.God Said he will have a people. Thank God I’m In that group.
May 1st, 2010 at 2:46
Given that you have never seemed to me to be a troll, tech, I will speak plainly to you. I know of only one thing relative to this discussion group that would make me happier than for you to move on (and for you to mean it this time). This is not because of some prejudicial dislike for you because you claim to be a Christian. Rather, it is because your only contributions to the group have been closed minded and dogmatic. Then of course there is the stated goal of the group “Daily quotations to interest, inspire or amuse atheists and agnostics” – but I do believe we would welcome anyone of any “faith” who wanted to present evidence to support their point of view.
At one time, I thought that you were beginning to at least entertain the idea that perhaps you had been mislead since birth into believing the ancient myth of Christianity, but, alas, the brainwashing has won out, as it often does.
I can assure you that the things that you came here to learn – and make no mistake, you did come here to learn; the things that have entered your mind while you have been a part of these discussions, will haunt you from this day forward. You know perfectly well that we aren’t a bunch of evil people trying to “do the devil’s work”, but are folks who have given a lot of thought to the positions that we hold.
It is very unlikely that you have a “much better life that you practice”. You are trapped and bound into a lifestyle and philosophy which promises much and delivers nothing but enslavement and fear. The next time you hear some “christian” on TV who made the choice to move his family to a safe room in a house struck by a tornado and then “gives all the glory to god”, you are going to have to ask yourself who the evil and worthless being was who created the tornado or allowed it to cruelly wipe out all the neighbors. In the end, of course, no entity whatsoever has ever been involved with tornado’s or floods or volcanoes. Physics (nature) is solely responsible.
When that day comes, perhaps the empty promise of your messiah “Ask anything in my name and I will do it for you” will ring loudly in your head and you will think, “What have I been thinking? How many years and how much money have I thrown away for nothing? How many more years have I wasted since ceasing my discussions with those atheists? At least they told me the truth – and those truths were verifiable.
Sad but true!
DFTT!
BAT
May 1st, 2010 at 2:56
Well stated BAT.
DFTT
May 1st, 2010 at 3:29
Thanks, John: Hey, guys and gals, I frequently am on Reddit, and I found this referenced. Pretty timely, I thought:
“October 25, 1950
Mr. Morton Berkowitz
365 New York Ave.
Brooklyn N.Y.
Dear Mr. Berkowitz:
I felt very grateful receiving your kind letter of October 24th. Such utterances are the finest reward for an author.
My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment
I am sending you under separate cover two books of mine containing occasional writings where you will find more about this subject.
Sincerely yours,
(Signed, ‘A. Einstein.’)
Albert Einstein.”
DFTT!
BAT
May 1st, 2010 at 6:21
Even Geniuses can’t escape the act of god. At some instances Einstein even forgets the house where he lives! Whaaa….ka…ka…ka….
May 1st, 2010 at 7:01
Bizarre non sequiturs here notwithstanding, this is my favorite Einstein quote. I’ve had poorly informed (at best) Xtians inform me of Mr. Einstein’s supposed belief in God only to trot out this little gem which seems to put that slander to rest. They quickly move on to another tactic without once looking back. I suspect that knowing the truth doesn’t prevent them from trying again on the next person. Somehow such dishonesty is easy to square with the morality that they are supposedly imbued by god with. No doubt this reflects poorly on their human frailty and somehow not on their law-giver. Somehow.
I share Mr. Einstein’s agnosticism but he seems not to share my atheism. Perhaps Einstein’s position is a superior position for a man of science to hold because the strong suspicions that I harbor about there not being any such Magical Being as god would perhaps be unbecoming in one who’s stock in trade is models and evidence. Of course that doesn’t seem to bother Dawkins, P.Z. Meyers and others. Perhaps Einstein’s reluctance was born from good manners (not to offend the easily offended) or a sense of tradition. Or yet, a keen political sense.
Hawking appears to be an agnostic as well but is less free with his words on the subject than Einstein was. Annoyingly, both men used the word ‘god’ a lot which seems the confuse the hell out of those that lack nuance.
Drink up, good people!
May 1st, 2010 at 10:38
I have one last thing to say and that is to Bat.If at the end of my journey I find that I have lived this life and no reward, I’ve lost nothing.But you on the other hand lost a great deal.Eternal Life.I give Thanks to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ for leading me in a good life, no matter what the end result maybe.This will be my last post, I have no need to mingle with people who make no sense to me.I can’t say its been a pleasure. good bye
May 1st, 2010 at 11:39
Yeah…you’re right tech. God have said it, neither you gave advice or not to the unbelievers they will still refuse to accept theres God. Its because their hearts have been closed shut. Let them lost in their dream world & live happily following their lusts for this short while. And when they rise from their death they will then know & regret that their true & sincere advisor have been right all along. They will really face hell.
May 1st, 2010 at 13:54
“… oh, damn”, he suddenly realized, “I forgot about that lifetime of guilt and misspent time and efforts. I guess I did lose something. “Oh, crap… then there is the legacy of lies and misinformation that I passed to my children and friends.” “Geez, this is mounting up to a pretty wasted life.”
DFTT!
BAT
May 1st, 2010 at 15:09
Wow, that was so easy sister sarah p (i.e. quitter); all because I asked for an honest explanation as to the how and the why jesus christ died for sins so many years before someone was born and how and which sins needed to be committed that jc could die? I guess that that was an over whelming challenge to the fairy tail…
Bye…
DFTT
May 1st, 2010 at 15:15
Theres no time wasting. Theres ample of time in the afterlife. What is passed of Gods words on earth is rewarded in the afterlife. If you think life is only on earth, whats the point of having infant deaths. They hardly experience what life is. You will probably….no surely face hell BAT. I promise you.Unless you repent. What a terrible place to inhabit.
May 1st, 2010 at 15:42
Even I’am not into the believe that one would carry the sins of others but to answer Johns continuous stupidity it will simplify to this:
John is repeatedly asking for a simple explaintion that he could’nt thought of. If God could planned everything, his creations, the systems, this means God have known what is to happen in future. Now youre talking about the lousy sins many years before someone was born and how and which sins needed to be committed.What a simple job for God to know it.
DFTT
( Do Feed The Theists)
May 2nd, 2010 at 1:07
Einstein was smart enough to realize that there is an order to the universe. He was also smart enough to realize that the christian/hebrew/muslim god mythology offered no viable explanation for any of this. Personal god indeed.
May 2nd, 2010 at 2:09
Come on guys. The quote has to be taken in context. You know the one, anything that might change, alter or adjust a theists views is to be ignored.