24th October 2010

“Yoga may appear harmless or even beneficial but it is encouraging people to think that there is a way to wholeness of body and mind through human techniques.”

Rev. Tim Jones

12 Responses to “24th October 2010”

  1. reetBob Says:

    Serial lurker here.

    This priest seems like he might be a bit of an attention-seeker.

    He wants to banish conflicting ideologies from his church just like secularists want to banish the church from the public sphere.

    Attitudes like his simply make the church look preposterous.

  2. opleaze............. Says:

    i think what REALLY bothers this guy are the words, ” it is encouraging

    people to think. “

  3. Ernie Says:

    Yoga has been so secularized in the west the statement is meaningless. Is this the UK’s Father Tim?

  4. Ernie Says:

    Does Rev. Tim propose I lower my blood pressure solely by praying?

  5. Armand Says:

    A perfect example of the rel(igiot) mentality, the greatest fear being anything that “will encourage people to think” for themselves. Those in the business of religions would much rather keep you in their superstitions and ignorance and of course fear. The ultimate tool of control. Those incapable of thinking for themselves, to scared to be their own masters will follow these deranged morons who find meaning in the power of their meaningless words, especially of anything that threatens their “turf”, their “way”, their version of the Big Daddy in the sky watching your every moment and thought.

    Is it any wonder that there are so many references to “sheep”, “flock” and “shepherds”, Think about the IQ level it takes to be a shepherd and you will get the precise IQ needed to be a preacher, that and a bit of charisma and enough brain cells to remember meaningless passages from dusty book called the Holey BuyBull. Now think of the IQ required of the sheep and you have just understood the religious dependence phenomenon.

    Do you know what it takes to become a reverend in the US? A piece of paper signed by another reverend. No test required, just perhaps a payment. No other recognized designation that you can officially carry as a title before your name requires less qualifications. Enough said.

  6. Atheist MC Says:

    This guy is a

    He preceded the quote above with this…

    The Rev Tim Jones, vicar of St James’s, said: “Any alternative philosophies or beliefs are offering a sham – and at St James’s Church we want people to have the real thing. Yoga has its roots in Hinduism, and attempts to use exercises and relaxation techniques to put a person into a calm frame of mind – in touch with some kind of impersonal spiritual reality.

    As oppose to a superfluous Christian reality I suppose.

  7. Doubting Thomas Says:

    He better not come to our part of the woods or me and Boo Boo will steal his picnic

  8. Kaptain Says:

    I think you covered it pretty well. Good job!

  9. GreatEighthSin Says:

    This guy and his ideology is a joke… Heaven forbid (literally?) that someone should be surrounded by a culture that goes outside the “Christian lifestyle”. Might as well not even think about going to India, or going to China, or hell, even leaving the damned church since you MIGHT just deconvert because you’re surrounded by non-Christian symbology.

    Church leaders like this only prove to me that they’re fearful of something. Generally that fear is either in their financial security, or subconsciously fearful that they’re own ideologies are false.

  10. GreatEighthSin Says:

    @Armand I forgot to mention that you can even go online and pay $20 to be ordained. My dad did it so that he could marry off people in our church/wedding chapel.

    Ahh.. all the memories of dealing with people who were renting our church for services. Only one of them were actually decent and respectful, and also stated openly that a church IS a business.

  11. Eric Says:

    “The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.”

    -Princess Leia

  12. reetBob Says:

    In terms of psychological make-up I believe that people like this get a kick out of both controlling people and attracting attention, manipulating emotions to get what they want.

    He is probably very different from the average person and knows full well that his stated point of view is unsupported by evidence or logic.

    To my mind there is little point getting angry at his words. However we should always be aware that there are “flocks” under the control of personalities like this everywhere we look; within religions and cults, despotic regimes, even to a lesser extent in the competitive environment of some workplaces.

    We should strive to liberate the herd with exposure to truth, aware that they are likely to see the truth and its source as dangerous enemies.