24th April 2010

“Matthew's Gospel was written in about AD 80-90 for Christians who were not of Jewish provenance – that is, Gentiles who had no knowledge of Isaiah's original Hebrew. For them, the passage announced, unambiguously, the fulfilment of an ancient prophecy: the miraculous birth of a divine being. But the prophet himself and readers of his original Hebrew sentence regarded it as a quite specific allusion to the historical circumstances of Isaiah's age – and would have found its mutation in Greek into one of the foundations of Christian doctrine quite baffling.”

Géza Vermes

17 Responses to “24th April 2010”

  1. CaptainZero1969 Says:

    Which is to say that Christianity is in important ways merely a repackaging of the older Judaism. Like any game of telephone, the message gets less accurate every time it’s retold.

  2. solomon Says:

    Only the Qoran is accurate.No contradictions.As it is since 1400 years ago.What a miracle.

  3. Hypatia Says:

    Qoran is accurate.

    Qur’an 86:6-7: “He is created from a drop (of sperm) emitted – Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs.”

    But as we all know sperm is created in the testes.

    No contradictions.

    So how long did it take Allah to create the heavens and the earth?

    Qur’an 7:54: “Your Guardian-Lord is Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth in six days.”

    Qur’an 2:117: “The Originator of the heavens and the earth! When He decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: Be! and it is.”

    There are hundreds of other errors and inconsistencies in the Qoran. The only reason that no one in the Muslim world will openly admit this is that they would be dead or in jail soon after.

  4. j sutton Says:

    Hi, Sol. Its conventional to leave a space after a full stop.Not like this.

    Strictly speaking that last bit was wrong because it was not a sentence but it would take someone with much more patience than me to explain that to you.

  5. solomon Says:


    Thats all you know,sperm is created in the testes.But do you know the real origin of the sperm before it enters the testis?Have you did a research on that?

  6. Hypatia Says:


    If you’re really interested read this: http://www.wikiislam.com/wiki/Quran_and_Semen_Production

  7. solomon Says:


    Put forth which part of the Qoran contradicts if you’re the man of truth & lets start a debate on it.Don’t just make wild accusations.

  8. solomon Says:


    I don’t have to go thru the site you show me.The author did’nt even mention his identity.The author only made assumtions of the various muslim scholars definition and interpret(twist) it on only his own understanding.

  9. Atheist MC Says:

    The christian bible is a mess of contradictions, mainly due to the many redactions and exclusions mandated by the orthodoxy of the early church. It is only because (for example) Paul, follows the four canonical gospels that his doctirine is assumed to refer to Christ as a real person. In fact of course Pauline doctorine preceded the writing of “Matthew”, “mark”, “luke” and “John” and read in this way Christ becomes a typical Greco/ Pagan myth/man/god figure of the age.
    In some ways the Qu’ran has it right in that it assumes the NT is a flawed document. Unfortunately it does not go far enough, in that it recognises Christ as a living prophet. So the Qu’ran is also wrong.
    Sol: The Qu’ran is also the most boring and transparently politically motivated tract ever written. I’d rather read the BNP manifesto.

  10. Alavi Hossain Says:

    how can people be so blind? why would the texts be written so long after jesus had passed? it really makes no sense. in addtion to that, the sotry of jesus matches those of Horus and Mithra. clearly the bible was written in relation to those texts.

    i really cannot accept that the quran hasnt changed. my parents and all other muslims have always told me that, but never explained to me how they knew. it’s such a ridiculous statement, any religious text modifies itself over time to be relevant. unless someone can show me a quran from 600-700 ce and match it to a modern quran, i simply will not accept such a bogus claim.

  11. solomon Says:

    Alavi Hossain,

    Its you that is always blind.Jesus bring along with him the Injil.After him the book is gradually revised,twist or modified by scholars to fit into the bible.
    Knowing this would happen God granted Qoran to Mohammad so that humans still have the true teachings of gods ways & exposing the mischiefs done by the scholars.The text in the Qoran will not be changed not even a single word or commas & that is guaranteed by God.If somebody tries to do that it will promptly detected & highlighted & corrected.
    Don’t you know that the words of the Qoran is memorised word by word or commas or fullstops by lots of scholars?In this way no modifications or ammendments could take place.

  12. solomon Says:

    Atheist MC,

    You can simply say the Qoran is also wrong. In what way does it not right?

  13. solomon Says:

    Dear Alavi,(refer 22 April comments)

    I’am not talking about sex organs development you scum. I’am talking about tits.Are you plain talking or are you always guessing?If you say the embryo only or just follows a ‘female template’ then why men does not have vaginas? Whaa ka ka ka.

    After sex is determined the actions or process of the Y chromosome and the hormone testosterone that brings about the changes and masculinises will do no good in changing sex.How can the female gamete consisting of vaginas suddenly changes into a penis?
    So with God(not my logic) a baby should not have both penis & vaginas cos sex have been predetermine.Facial hair or bust enlargement continues in man & women respectively in the later stages.
    So my doctrine that nipples have functions in man still stands.

  14. solomon Says:

    You better just follow the “Book” and get some sleep Alavi. Or you can either talk to some goat herder instead of me.

  15. John Says:

    Hermaphrodites are excluded and tend to throw off solomon’s reality.

    As for those books so many fools waste their lives on; got news for you… they have all been written by man, for man to control man. Period!

  16. GoodWithoutGod Says:

    It’s sad to see that people on this blog are still engaging the troll commonly known as Solomon.

    He’s indoctrinated beyond all hope and is immune to reason and honest debate. Why do you continue to give him attention and provide him with a stage to spew his nonsense?

    Don’t feed him.

  17. solomon Says:

    John & GoodWithoutGod,

    A desperate & hopeless attempt to illegally discard me after failing to refute my reasons.